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		<title>By: decora</title>
		<link>http://www.21cb.net/japanese-porn-stars-retire/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>decora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its part of industry PR to make you think that all its &#039;graduates&#039; are doing &#039;just fine&#039;. like any other industry, it needs to promote itself and act like its workers are well treated. this is also called &#039;propaganda&#039;.  

somhow i think this is not the whole story - it certainly isn&#039;t in the american &quot;av industry&quot;. 
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its part of industry PR to make you think that all its &#8216;graduates&#8217; are doing &#8216;just fine&#8217;. like any other industry, it needs to promote itself and act like its workers are well treated. this is also called &#8216;propaganda&#8217;.  </p>
<p>somhow i think this is not the whole story &#8211; it certainly isn&#8217;t in the american &#8220;av industry&#8221;. <br />
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		<title>By: Michael Suen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Suen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Thanks for your thoughtful response. With various taboos being more openly probed by Japan&#039;s porn industry, the Japanese public&#039;s relation to pornography is definitely a complex and often morally ambiguous one. You&#039;re right, it&#039;s naive to say that a porn actor&#039;s return to the normalcy of &quot;regular&quot; life would be smooth sailing.

But maybe it&#039;s also too simplistic to posit porn stars as being desperate or psychologically damaged people forced into the business. Is it unfair to suggest that by and large, a porn star might have some sort of agency in her decisions? I suppose some would argue she doesn&#039;t, or that any apparent agency is the result of internalized cultural forces at work. It&#039;s hard to say.</description>
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<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response. With various taboos being more openly probed by Japan&#8217;s porn industry, the Japanese public&#8217;s relation to pornography is definitely a complex and often morally ambiguous one. You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s naive to say that a porn actor&#8217;s return to the normalcy of &#8220;regular&#8221; life would be smooth sailing.</p>
<p>But maybe it&#8217;s also too simplistic to posit porn stars as being desperate or psychologically damaged people forced into the business. Is it unfair to suggest that by and large, a porn star might have some sort of agency in her decisions? I suppose some would argue she doesn&#8217;t, or that any apparent agency is the result of internalized cultural forces at work. It&#8217;s hard to say.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.21cb.net/japanese-porn-stars-retire/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 05:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you vastly oversimplified a complex and oftentimes dark reality. Japan, from what I have learned from Japanese, is a radically different culture from almost any other on the planet, and many would argue it is a culture in flux, or decay.

Of course a porn star&#039;s representation is going to say that &quot;by and large, the girls are just like anybody else, and most of them return to normal life&quot;. THESE GIRLS SEXUAL EXPLOITS PAY HIS FAT SALARY!. (sorry for caps, but I just had to do it) What should he say, that many of them struggle with questions of intimacy, trust and alienation for the rest of their lives, and oftentimes blow all their winnings on drugs?

You have to be hardened to certain things to work in certain professions, and porn is one of them. Porn, for better or worse, is a part of our culture, still, its a private thing for most people. We don&#039;t talk about our favorite starlets or the website we&#039;ve been jerking of too lately with our co-workers (for the most part).

I know Japan is different, like America its troubled, but its troubled in different ways. (Child pornography is a massive problem in Japan, due to precisely how accepted, and &quot;embraced&quot; the adult industry is.

At the end of the day just ask yourself, would you want your daughter, cousin or sister to do it? If the answer is no, ask yourself why.

Of course, this is just my opinion, and I&#039;m wrong quite a bit. Kudos for talking about stuff like this and bringing it to the public discourse (found you through a google search on what happens to ex porn stars)</description>
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I think you vastly oversimplified a complex and oftentimes dark reality. Japan, from what I have learned from Japanese, is a radically different culture from almost any other on the planet, and many would argue it is a culture in flux, or decay.</p>
<p>Of course a porn star&#8217;s representation is going to say that &#8220;by and large, the girls are just like anybody else, and most of them return to normal life&#8221;. THESE GIRLS SEXUAL EXPLOITS PAY HIS FAT SALARY!. (sorry for caps, but I just had to do it) What should he say, that many of them struggle with questions of intimacy, trust and alienation for the rest of their lives, and oftentimes blow all their winnings on drugs?</p>
<p>You have to be hardened to certain things to work in certain professions, and porn is one of them. Porn, for better or worse, is a part of our culture, still, its a private thing for most people. We don&#8217;t talk about our favorite starlets or the website we&#8217;ve been jerking of too lately with our co-workers (for the most part).</p>
<p>I know Japan is different, like America its troubled, but its troubled in different ways. (Child pornography is a massive problem in Japan, due to precisely how accepted, and &#8220;embraced&#8221; the adult industry is.</p>
<p>At the end of the day just ask yourself, would you want your daughter, cousin or sister to do it? If the answer is no, ask yourself why.</p>
<p>Of course, this is just my opinion, and I&#8217;m wrong quite a bit. Kudos for talking about stuff like this and bringing it to the public discourse (found you through a <a href="http://www.21cb.net/tag/google">google</a> search on what happens to ex porn stars)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alphaomega9997</title>
		<link>http://www.21cb.net/japanese-porn-stars-retire/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>alphaomega9997</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Good Post &quot;Michael&quot; It&#039;s Cool That in Japan AV Idol&#039;s are Able to Still Live a Good Life After They Retire From Their AV Career Unlike Most Pormstars Here in America Who Just Seem to Hit Rock Bottom, Find Religion, or Both When Their Career&#039;s End.

In Your Post You Discussed That Most of The Time AV Idols are Accept in Japanese Sociaty But is It The Same for Former AV Idols That Had a Mainstream Career Before They AV Idols Like &quot;Natsuki Ozawa&quot;.</description>
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Damn Good Post &#8220;Michael&#8221; It&#8217;s Cool That in Japan AV Idol&#8217;s are Able to Still Live a Good Life After They Retire From Their AV Career Unlike Most Pormstars Here in America Who Just Seem to Hit Rock Bottom, Find Religion, or Both When Their Career&#8217;s End.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan is different, Jav gals  have a good shot at going into mainstream showbiz
http://www.japansugoi.com/wordpress/jav-japanese-av-idols-are-sexy-and-popular/</description>
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Japan is different, Jav gals  have a good shot at going into mainstream showbiz<br />
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